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Mr. Goldberg
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2008, 11:40:47 AM »

Best thing about Samuel's art is his dancing   (see avatar) !!!
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Mr. Goldberg
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2008, 11:41:52 AM »

No, if anything, we owe ourselves more. Screw future generations.

You ever thought of running for the American Presidency Vixor Huh
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Vix0r
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2008, 12:30:24 PM »

I have a very strong loathing of that country's government so that would be a negative.

Related to art though I did see a thing in the paper about a town which normally hosts an art show. Someone unrelated to the show had made coloured stickers saying "art object" and a value ranging from a few pence to thousands of pounds. They stuck them to objects such as lamposts and bins, ect. A person was quoted as saying it was a good idea and great how "by putting these stickers on these objects they are now works of art!"

This I objected to. By their definition art is what ever the sticker is stuck to, or whatever someone simply says is a piece of art. No effort, no ability, no creation. Just what they're told. What do you guys reckon?
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Ploe
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2008, 09:05:50 PM »

People don't know what art is anymore. They see the world outside of their eyes, call it beautiful, and because it's beautiful they think it's art. But the world is already there, hard coded and predefined, art is how the artist reacts to the world, and because of that art can be ugly and horrible. Like bath water on an old carpet.
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Mr. Goldberg
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« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2008, 04:56:40 PM »

Art is for the artist! Art is a way of expression, it should satisfy the artist and bugger everyone else.

...reminds me of a conversation I once had with an actor years ago as to which would he prefer - being seen as a the finest actor by                 a) a member of the audience
                                or        b) a fellow actor



He chose the latter...implying that only an artist can appreciate an artist not the fee paying punter who puts them there in the first place. I'd be inclined to disagree with that as you can be as up-your-own-arty as you like but if no one's getting it from the reader's/viewer's/listener's perspective then surely your "art" has failed. If whatever your shit is fails the universality test it ain't art surely ? 

Bit like that plonker who directed Dr. Zhivago...I mean what is goin' on there..daffodils one minute; tramlines the next, Omar Sharif having an orgasm and hacking down the Russian serfs with swords for a few sacks of grain till we find the Power Station Huh Yer wot ?? Gimme Paul Whitehouse football manager to Director's commentary on that one any day o' the week. Cheesey Peas !??  Marvellous !!

You can toss it off behind a camera lens till the pseuds come home but if it ain't poking the pineal gland then I'm a cake mix.   

Cake...now there's a film not so much post structuralist as....park bench meets priapic pleasure of cake consumption...crumbs, cream the lot..MARVELLOUS !!!
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Vix0r
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« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2008, 11:06:36 PM »

You've written your message inside the quote tags, making it look as if I've said all that. =/
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Mr. Goldberg
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« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2008, 12:47:15 PM »

...and I'm sure you wish you had Vixor....no need to thank me.
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Ploe
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« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2008, 07:42:49 AM »

Fixed.
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Mr. Goldberg
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« Reply #58 on: August 26, 2008, 12:36:09 PM »

Fixed shmixed baked caked wot's the difference ?
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