Unquiet Desperation

Unquiet Desperation => The World => Topic started by: John the Fascist Baptist on March 07, 2008, 06:52:41 PM



Title: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: John the Fascist Baptist on March 07, 2008, 06:52:41 PM
i, bein a nosey-parker, would like to know wot people are readin at the moment, & wot they think of it.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on March 07, 2008, 07:04:18 PM
Cat's Cradle by Vonnegut.  Also reading The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, which I think should be required reading for schools, though many would disagree. 

I love both books.  Cradle because it's an interesting premise and all the Bokonist(sp?) philosophy involved.  The Age of Reason because if you want my opinion on religion, just read that. 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: John the Fascist Baptist on March 07, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
i love cat's cradle too - if i remember rightly, that is. is that the one with ice-9? u read "mother night"? those two are, together with ofcourse slaughterhouse, his best in my not-always-humble opinion.

age of reason i've never read, doesnt sound like my cup of tea. tho of course i no tom paine, from bob dylan: "as i went out one morning / to breathe the air around tom paine's / i spied the fairest damsel / that ever did walk in chains / i offered her my hand / she took me by the arm / i knew that very instant / she meant to do me harm."


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on March 07, 2008, 07:17:56 PM
i love cat's cradle too - if i remember rightly, that is. is that the one with ice-9? u read "mother night"? those two are, together with ofcourse slaughterhouse, his best in my not-always-humble opinion.

Yes, the Ice-9, but don't tell me anything as I am right in the middle of it.  I loved Slaughterhouse too (it's the only other Vonnegut work I've read thus far).  I also occasionally read Bagombo Snuff box.  Great short stories. 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: John the Fascist Baptist on March 07, 2008, 07:23:19 PM
then i'd highly recommend "mother night" for you next. i've read quite a bit of vonnegut, tho i must be honest towards his later days (later 80s & onwards) he does seem to repeat himself a lot. i think his post-slaughterhouse stuff seems to dwindle in quality, with the occasional peak like "timequake," which i enjoyed. but read "mother night"!

im nearing the end of "no country for old men" at the moment, & loving it. it's like a noir thriller by hemingway. in fact, i'm going to have to log off soon & find out wot happens....


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on March 07, 2008, 07:30:30 PM
I will definitely read it then, though I have a few other books I've been waiting to read.  Also, the No Country for Old Men, I've heard about the movie, but since I think movies are mostly boring, I'd rather read the book.    When you finish, could you give me your overall opinion without spoiling anything?  You seem to like it thus far.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: John the Fascist Baptist on March 07, 2008, 07:35:32 PM
i can do that my good man, yes - that's why i started my book club in the first place, after all!.... plus so that one day i can be like oprah, and people will have my stickers on their books: "John the Fascist Baptist's Book Club Choice" etc. stranger things have happened.

i have made myself a coffee, have a cigarette ready-rolled, the lamp's on, so i'm about to lay down and & finish my book.

ah! don't you just love reading?


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on March 07, 2008, 07:38:14 PM
Oprah ain't got shit on you man. ;)
Another book I really like was Kane and Abel by Jeffery Archer.  A real page turner, whatever that maybe.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 07, 2008, 07:42:08 PM
I'm reading Vonnegut's Breakfast For Champions and its frankly genius


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: moneycash on March 08, 2008, 05:26:22 AM
i have been mired in the brothers karamasov for months now.  i dig it, but can't seem to read more than a few passages at a time.  in the meantime, i'm reading about the beats in john tytell's naked angels, and as such have picked up ginsberg's anthology of poems, and a collection of all of kerouac's novels in one edition.  finally, i've been checking out the market and seeing what's being published in a few rags.  i had a $50 gift certificate to B&N and spent it all on magazines.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: nauseamfromrum on March 08, 2008, 05:38:41 AM
the last book i read was invisible man for school. damn good.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: nell8090 on March 18, 2008, 06:36:41 PM
i am reading "everything is illuminated" by jonathan safran foer. it is awesome. and i recommend the movie too. made about 3 years ago.
so far its not one of those books that i can't put down, but i do find myself penciling and circling lines because they are actually very profound.
hope someone picks up this book too, so we can discuss.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on March 18, 2008, 07:49:42 PM
Just finished Bokowski's Post Office. My first read of it. I reckon much. Waiting for a friend to loan me Ham on Rye.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on March 18, 2008, 08:01:39 PM
Just finished Bokowski's Post Office. My first read of it. I reckon much. Waiting for a friend to loan me Ham on Rye.

When you say "I reckon much," does that mean you liked it?  I have wanted to read that for a while, but I've never made it past his poetry. 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 19, 2008, 10:15:17 AM
It's great, I've just bought some more Buckowski today.
'The Most Beautiful Woman In Town', a collection of shorts.MARVELLOUS!


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: To The Birds on March 19, 2008, 10:40:33 PM
Keeping up the Vonnegut theme, I've just started work on 'Jailbird' - only a few chapters in, but as ever it's hilarious, engrossing stuff.  The last week I've got through 'Hunger' by Knut Hamsun (one for the Kafka fans out there, me thinks...) and Haruki Murakami's most recent work, 'After Dark' (a really absorbing, surreal work as usual, although I'd recommend any newcomers to his work start with the more definitve 'Kafka on the Shore') also.  I've also got that recently issued "original scroll" edition of 'On the Road' I'd like to get through at some point in the next few weeks before uni kicks off again.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Saika_Suzumiya on March 19, 2008, 11:56:39 PM
We're doing Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte and One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey for Lit, two of the best books ever! At first, before I learnt that classics could make good stories and when I loathed Shakespeare for makin my school years a hell, I thought I'd hate those two books but I got so engrossed when I started reading, they are brilliant!


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 20, 2008, 12:06:22 AM
I think Kesey, on the whole, gets far too wrapped up in that Huxley-meets-Leary psycho-babble BUT 'One Flew...'is a modern day classic


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on March 20, 2008, 12:47:14 PM
Kesey was a government ginny pig for LSD.  If anyone saw the The Electric Kool Aid Talk Show, he says the government asked him to go into this unknown "room" and explore it.  For 8 months he explored it.  When he got out, the government did not want anyone to go back in that "room" again. ;D 

Assholes.

   


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 20, 2008, 02:28:12 PM
Didn't he used to get his supply from Owsley?


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on March 20, 2008, 02:56:32 PM
I believe so.  They were all around San Fran, so I'm sure there was some connection there too.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 20, 2008, 06:27:12 PM
And like every Acid-Head of that scene the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane would have been involved...and maybe The Doors,Ginsberg and Neil Younng for good measure.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Tiny Montgomery on March 21, 2008, 09:58:20 AM
Oprah ain't got shit on you man. ;)
Another book I really like was Kane and Abel by Jeffery Archer.  A real page turner, whatever that maybe.

in england, if you like jeffery archer, it is automatically assumed there is something wrong with you.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Tiny Montgomery on March 21, 2008, 10:02:42 AM
i am reading "everything is illuminated" by jonathan safran foer. it is awesome. and i recommend the movie too. made about 3 years ago.
so far its not one of those books that i can't put down, but i do find myself penciling and circling lines because they are actually very profound.
hope someone picks up this book too, so we can discuss.

i've been meaning to read that for a while - that, & the other one, about the kid who's dad dies in the twin towers, where it's got the reverse flipbook at the back of The Falling Man falling UP the towers. i've been slightly put off by some reviews i've read, which basically call safran foer a pretentious nobody, tho that sounds like jealousy to me, & i am keen to check them both out, innit.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 21, 2008, 10:13:52 AM
Anything read anything by Franzen??


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Tiny Montgomery on March 21, 2008, 10:28:04 AM
Anything read anything by Franzen??

yes! i've read the corrections, which is good, but a bit derivative of david foster wallace (who is someone EVERYONE on here should read, cos he's the best thing since sliced bread, & i can't big-him-up enough). i have tried to start reading "strong motion," but it's not going well. he has the tendency to be a bit boring, methinks. but the corrections is good.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 21, 2008, 10:31:32 AM
The Corrections is good....

yuo read Wallace's 'Infinite Jest'?


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Tiny Montgomery on March 21, 2008, 10:33:22 AM
i have indeed, & sometimes i think it's the best book ever written, tho it has driven me slightly crazy, & there is probably not a day goes by in which i don't think about it, & wot the fuck happened to hal, & gately, & whether The Prettiest Girl Of All Time was actually deformed or not, & such questions as those, & basically how great it is.

have you read it?????


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 21, 2008, 10:37:26 AM
i have not
but i must.



Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Tiny Montgomery on March 21, 2008, 10:40:43 AM
you really must, dandy, i think you will love it. it will be pretty hard going at first, & you will probably think (like me) "wot the fuck's going on here," but if you perservere you will be rewarded. somebody once said about naked lunch that it's "an endless book that will drive everybody mad," but that quote's more fitting for infinite jest. it is absolutely hilarious, but very very dark, & very very sad. if you do start reading it, DON'T - like many people do - give up. perservere, & it will be worth it. sorry, but i get a bit heated whenever i talk about this book, because i love it.

also any other DFW book - his nonfiction stuff is absolutely high-larious too, especially "a supposedly fun thing i'll never do again." read em all!


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 21, 2008, 10:45:51 AM
I've been so hooked on Buckowski recently though....
I find his grimy tales of Skid Row America so enthralling.
Although his shorts are rather Surreal,and occasionally seem like juvenile attempts at Sci-Fi.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Tiny Montgomery on March 21, 2008, 10:47:29 AM
never read his shorts, i've just read "ham on rye" & a few poetry collections. i like what i've read, but not enough to seek out other things he's written, if yknow what i mean.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on March 21, 2008, 10:58:47 AM
I came across a book of shorts t'other day...
And I realised it was brilliant....
But seemingly a little contrived..


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on March 21, 2008, 05:43:55 PM
never read his shorts, i've just read "ham on rye" & a few poetry collections. i like what i've read, but not enough to seek out other things he's written, if yknow what i mean.

I'm reading "Ham on Rye" now. I'm finding it brilliant. Funny, and harrowing. All at once. Love it.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: JB on April 13, 2008, 09:30:37 AM
i have been mired in the brothers karamasov for months now.  i dig it, but can't seem to read more than a few passages at a time.  in the meantime, i'm reading about the beats in john tytell's naked angels, and as such have picked up ginsberg's anthology of poems, and a collection of all of kerouac's novels in one edition.  finally, i've been checking out the market and seeing what's being published in a few rags.  i had a $50 gift certificate to B&N and spent it all on magazines.

I too am reading Karamazov at the moment, & am lapping it up. i've read it before, many years ago, & didn't think i'd remembered much of it, but reading it again i'm amazed how much i have remembered without even realising it. i fooking love dostoyevsky. i love how people "shake their fists" when they get angry and call each "scoundrels" and "blockheads." of course, there are many more deep philosophical and religious and moral things i love about him too, but i won't go into them here. if you are finding it a bit tough going i would say it might be the translation, as there are some translations of dostoyevsky that are very strange, especially the ones by constance garnett, who's still after all these years probably the most popular translator, but who can make dostoyevsky sound like a stilted Victorian & a very bad writer. (' "Nastasya Filippovna!" General Epanchin articulated reproachfully,' is one clunker i've just picked at random from "the idiot.") it takes a very good writer to survive mrs garnett's translation, & dostoyevsky does it admirably. wot a guy!


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: moneycash on April 13, 2008, 03:39:44 PM
yep.  it's garnett who translated this as well.  it is pretty terrible.  i have a friend who says he has a better translation, so i may start over with his edition this summer.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on April 15, 2008, 01:07:07 PM
Yet again I flit betwixt reading 'Giovanni's Room' by James Baldwin and Joris-Karl Huysmans' 'A'Rebours'.


both excellent


But an amazing book I must mention is John Rechy's City Of Night'


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: JB on April 15, 2008, 01:09:41 PM
never read any of them, tho i know of "a'rebours" - it's the one that oscar wilde writes about, under a different name, in dorian gray, isn't it? also i know it from the babyshambles song, but that's neither here & nor is it there. baldwin i've never been interested in, and city of night i've never heard of at all.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on April 15, 2008, 01:22:37 PM
Yes Wilde was a massive Huysmans fan!!!
Dohert is allegedly...


Rechy explored the underbelly of the homosexual world.
He inspired Jim Morrison a massive amount,In fact L.A. WOMAN refernces it with the frrain
'CITY OF NIGHT'


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: GhostofKidneyStonesPassed on May 29, 2008, 08:25:50 PM
I'm reading "Ham on Rye" now. I'm finding it brilliant. Funny, and harrowing. All at once. Love it.

I'm reading that now myself.  It's hard to put down, although reading about his boils makes me wanna puke.  In a good way though. 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on May 29, 2008, 08:46:55 PM
Read Factotum after Ham on Rye. I'm one of the rare breed that prefers Factotum. Any narrative that involves someone licking peanut butter from their fingers, while listening to a dying man HAS to be one of my favourites. Out of principle.

Currently reading Women, but somehow I've managed to put it down. Bukowski's work is shit hot though. I hope everybody gets that...


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on June 28, 2008, 05:46:44 PM
Double posting, sorry. Still haven't finished Women but I read Pulp today. His best novel by far...


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 01, 2008, 02:39:56 PM
I just ordered Factotum and am eagerly awaiting its arrival.  Just finished Breakfast of Champions which I liked, but not as much as Cat's Cradle.   


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on July 01, 2008, 02:56:22 PM
Ordered, as in new?


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 01, 2008, 07:20:10 PM
Ordered, as in new?

I ordered a used one at www.half.com (http://www.half.com).  It was actually in my mailbox when I went home for lunch.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: ~vxn~ on July 01, 2008, 11:56:13 PM
i'm reading something by king--one of the collections--"nightmares and dreamscapes", i think.  finished "blaze" by king a few weeks ago.  it was ok.  i would have ended it differently.

mostly been reading my own books--working on a collection that has favorites from the last 2 books. 

it goes:  book 1.  all new.
            book 2.  all new.
            book 3.  first 1/2 all new.  1/4 book 1 faves.  1/4 book 2 faves.

that is the pattern i follow when writing poetry collections that no one reads.  that way--my "fans" can just buy every third book to get the general idea. 

after reading "Diary of Madness" and "Sanitarium" for the 1000th time, i'm beginning to think that i am a very disturbed individual.  lol.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 02, 2008, 01:59:13 PM
i'm beginning to think that i am a very disturbed individual.  lol.

I've felt the same way since I was in high school.  It's fun being disturbed. 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: ~vxn~ on July 02, 2008, 02:58:11 PM
it's more fun to be disturbING.  lol...


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 02, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
touche'


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on July 03, 2008, 07:22:46 PM
Memoirs of a Geisha. It's really well written and addictive.

I love how when I read a good book I'm not reading, but entering a whole new little universe. The words blur and I see it all played out in my mind.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on July 03, 2008, 07:27:04 PM
Memoirs of a Geisha. It's really well written and addictive.

I love how when I read a good book I'm not reading, but entering a whole new little universe. The words blur and I see it all played out in my mind.

Yes I love that feeling too, but I'm one of those gimps that realise that during reading and I remember the words are there. Sometimes I can daydream over huge chunks of chapters too and I have to re-read them.

touche'

It's touché, squire. To accent the é just hold down Alt Gr, and press the letter e. Also works with á, í, ó and ú.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on July 03, 2008, 08:32:04 PM
Yeah, I daydream over bits too. I usually take that as a sign to put the book down for a bit.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on July 06, 2008, 01:52:48 AM
Where are the edit buttons? Every forum should have these as mandatory and I know they were here before. What about spelling mistakes or adding extra comments on to a post? As they have been removed I am now forced to do the despicable act of double posting. Please excuse me.

/grumpy

I just finished Memoirs of a Geisha the other day and had to post. It is a wonderful book. One of those ones that sucks me right in, chocked full of detail and life with characters so realistic you feel as if you know them, and the effect of making me ponder about it long after I'd finished.

It's straight up there on my metaphorical shelf reserved only for my most favourite of books, of which there are not many that meet the hard criteria. True I have a lot of books I love but this is one special shelf.

EDIT: There's an edit button on this post now but seemingly none of my others, including the one right above. Eh?!


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 07, 2008, 02:22:58 PM
It's touché, squire. To accent the é just hold down Alt Gr, and press the letter e. Also works with á, í, ó and ú.

What's Gr? 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on July 07, 2008, 04:01:10 PM
There're two buttons alt buttons on a keyboard one says Gr. I can't remember what that means. It's the right alt key on my keyboard.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on July 07, 2008, 04:47:27 PM
Maybe it's the more agressvie one. Grrr.....


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 07, 2008, 06:11:25 PM
Each time I hold down either Alt button and then press e it brings up my Edit menu.  Might my American computer not be programmed to add the accent, or am I just missing something? 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on July 12, 2008, 10:32:26 AM
Thomas Mann-Death In Venice
Borrowed it from Tim G.
Fuckin' amazin'
Who Ever said pederasty wasn't cool?


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Ploe on July 13, 2008, 02:44:58 AM
Each time I hold down either Alt button and then press e it brings up my Edit menu.  Might my American computer not be programmed to add the accent, or am I just missing something? 

You fuckers just had to jump the pond and make your keyboards shit, didn't you? Ah well... Carry on using your apostrophe, I shan't pick on you.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 14, 2008, 01:41:04 PM
Thanks, and I shant pick on fish and chips, or something.

BTW, I just finished Factotum, and the last chapter (and especially the last line) is pure fuckin' genius.  About to start Mother Night by Vonnegut. 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on July 14, 2008, 02:26:26 PM
Dinny you tease the fish and chips! Our chips are delicious. Especially with a bit of vinegar and salt. Mmm.....


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on July 14, 2008, 07:01:20 PM
I've actually always thought fish and chips sounded lovely.  Are they fried?


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on July 14, 2008, 07:33:51 PM
Deep fried, the fish in batter. You can get fried vegetarian haggis at a chippy in Oban. It's lovely, really lovely.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Mr. Goldberg on September 23, 2008, 12:59:07 PM
Just thought I'd start a book thread... just re- read Cogs in the Great Machine .. by Eric Schlosser fascinating account of the meat industry in America with all its machinations and corruptions...quite shocking. It will put you off meat for life.

Also Leslie Philips Autobiography " HELLO !"  v. quaint, v. British, v. charming...ding dong carry on !  :-*


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on September 23, 2008, 02:03:13 PM
About to read Survivor by Chuck Palahniuk


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on September 23, 2008, 07:04:50 PM
I've been reading some cracking books lately! As I said before Memoirs of a Geisha is amazing. I just finished Catch Me If You Can by Frank Abagnale (whose ghost written memoirs were turned into the film of the same name) and it's spiffing. I know alot of it will be exagerations but it's cheeky and humourous and detailed and brilliant. What a man. I bought and started Gulliver's Travels too which I'm thoroughly enjoying and am still reading Chloe (another much loved book) and one of James Herriot's (one of my favourite, if not my favourite, authors) books I forgot I was in the middle of.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Null on September 23, 2008, 07:57:27 PM
Wothcoo Readin ?? and John's Book Club merged.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: ~vxn~ on September 24, 2008, 11:25:33 PM
currently reading Sanitarium by Melyssa G. Sprott.  (poetry.)

almost finished writing collection 6 (poetry).  still need to title quite a few pieces.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on September 27, 2008, 10:46:21 AM
I'm reading Saul Bellow's 'Herzog'


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Mr. Goldberg on September 27, 2008, 12:00:31 PM
Wasn't that Ian Curtis' last read ?


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on September 27, 2008, 02:03:13 PM
No,no he was watched a film DIRECTED by Werner Herzog...


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Will on October 23, 2008, 02:08:09 PM
I just started Sirens of Titan by Vonnegut.  I read somewhere on here that someone read A Clockwork Orange.  Would anyone recommend it? 


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Mr. Goldberg on November 01, 2008, 02:48:06 PM
Indeed. Read it at the tender age of 16 ( a gift from Uncle Barney) and fell in love with Burgess' teenage argot of a dystopian and to all intents and purposes well-predicted future apocalypse vision of the age of the young offender and their conditioning and place in society.

When they legalised the film at the back end of last century it was, for me, something of a letdown...one can hardly see what all the fuss was  about compared to some of the offerings Hollywood trundles out today. Excellent acting as ever from Macdowall (that's Malcolm - not Roddy who played Galen in Planet of the Apes). In short the book is better...much better, though many modern versions have a glossary in the back to translate Burgess' futuristic teenspeak in which the protagonist thinks/speaks you're best getting one without and trying to work it out for yourself as you go along me old dweeb.

It's basically Catcher in the Rye with flicknives, crowbars and electro shock therapy.

It may even make you want to touch yourself Will.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on November 01, 2008, 03:42:03 PM
I think I used to like the film because I slightly fancied MacDowell with his spiffy eyelashes but I tried to read the book and got about a page in when I decided that it was a load of bollocks and haven't ever wanted to read it since.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Mr. Goldberg on November 01, 2008, 03:46:47 PM
Well yes...I suppose that considered opinion is as valid as any other you could take. But I'm glad you obviously enjoyed the film so much you sweet young lady.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on November 01, 2008, 03:58:32 PM
I didn't really, I think. I just liked how odd it was. I don't think I could really watch it now without my interest being distracted by something else.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Mr. Goldberg on November 01, 2008, 04:01:16 PM
You'd like the films "IF" and "O Lucky Man" (both with Macdowall) if you haven't seen them...very dark in treatment of British institutions and values. Ploe and Jay are fans.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: Vix0r on November 01, 2008, 04:16:02 PM
In that case, I'll hate them for sure. I have a veeery different taste in films and so on to my man. Can't stand all these dank, depressing ones with "insights" and such. Give me lighthearted, romantic comedy any day.

Saying that, there are ones with messages in them that I do like. Just not the depressing ones.


Title: Re: Wotchoo Readin ??
Post by: ~vxn~ on November 01, 2008, 06:27:55 PM
currently (proof)reading Virus by melyssa g. sprott


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Post by: Will on November 03, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
It may even make you want to touch yourself Will.

I hope so.  Thanks for the input.


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Post by: Ploe on November 03, 2008, 03:32:02 PM
A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway. He's not the butch brute people have him pinned as.


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Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on November 03, 2008, 05:43:20 PM
I started reading Jack Kerouac's 'Satori In Paris' today,the penultimate story in the 'Dulouz Legend' and my gosh,it's awash with sadness and one can almost Jack's desperate need for alcohol.It's poetic and deeply harrowing stuff,tis.


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Post by: Mr. Goldberg on November 05, 2008, 03:42:13 PM
About two summers ago I remember reading a book called Mailman by J.Robert Lennon...absolutely brill just a lovely self contained one off about a naughty Mailman in USA


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Post by: ~vxn~ on November 05, 2008, 10:27:05 PM
still reading my own shite.  yes, i fascinate myself that much.


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Post by: Vix0r on November 06, 2008, 12:25:04 AM
Love, a selection of love poetry by somebody Osmond I think. Odd for me. Published the year I was born and bought to use for my uni project. However, I got reading it too so it's been saved.

The vast majority of the poems I skim over and abandon in dislike, but there are a few that make me smile where I can tell the writer's had a jolly old time putting their words in order. These are the ones I can whisper to myself to hear them and the ones I enjoy reading. Oddly, there's a lot about sex, even if it's subtle suggestions and even if the people in the poems don't care for one another at all.


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Post by: pease-smith on November 06, 2008, 12:27:03 PM
I'm reading James Joyce's Portrait of the Artist. I may pretend I'm 14 and change my name to Pete McCarthy and decide to be a writer after reading this.

x


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Post by: michaelaaron on November 08, 2008, 06:26:38 PM
I’m between David Icke’s Children of the Matrix & William S. Burroughs´ Naked Lunch! Plus random but great poetry here and there. Icke. Yessiree, bob, offers an interesting alternative to world history and prehistory and Burroughs is extremely pornographic. I’ve read some of his other books: Queer, Junkie and I liked them more comparatively . Don’t know what’s next: maybe a Keroauc / Salinger combo.

 8)


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Post by: Vix0r on November 08, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
Does anyone else accidentally get caught reading a million books at a time?

At the moment I've got Chloe and Gulliver's Travels on the go (after finishing the poetry book) and somewhere still with a bookmark in it is a vet book. I'm having to restrain myself from picking up Tipping The Velvet and Domesticated Goddess at the moment. I'd never get any uni work done...


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Post by: ~vxn~ on November 08, 2008, 10:11:41 PM
Does anyone else accidentally get caught reading a million books at a time?

At the moment I've got Chloe and Gulliver's Travels on the go (after finishing the poetry book) and somewhere still with a bookmark in it is a vet book. I'm having to restrain myself from picking up Tipping The Velvet and Domesticated Goddess at the moment. I'd never get any uni work done...

yes, i do that quite often.  (i blame my short attention span.)


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Post by: sinister_miss_nancy on November 09, 2008, 12:11:58 AM
Unfortuanatly, in all the years that I'v been able to read, I can only remember one time when I read one book ONLY, and that was 'The Hobbit' which I read in 2 days, partly because it was good and partly because Id missed my flight and got stuck in the snowy mountains of Switzerland   ???             
If I calculate correctly Iv never read less than 5 books at one time-its currently 9 and I can still flick strait to the page i was last on in each book- ;D  Oh dear...


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Post by: Will on November 10, 2008, 02:10:47 PM
Lord of the Flies by William Golding


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Post by: Mr. Goldberg on November 10, 2008, 02:44:33 PM
Oooh Will now you're talking I 've taught that one. Have you ever seen the original black and white film of that one...sorry but it beats the updated version made in the states twenty years later.

Could be a metaphor for messageboards that novel I think...put a group of people together on some artificial SIMs island like this one...or any other site...and see what happens. I've rarely seen harmony occur...only elitism, underhand gamesmanship, social cannibalism, chaos...and somewhere amisdst it all the mindless worship of a mouthing pig's head...

Read most of Golding what I like about him is that like John Fowles every novel is just totally different in style, approach, setting, theme to the previous. He has been criticised for having an overwhelmingly pessimistic view of the human race. Can't say I entirely disagree though. Try "The Spire" , "Darkness Visible" and "Pincher Martin" "The Inheritors" .


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Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on November 10, 2008, 08:29:51 PM
Orwell's 'Essays'


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Post by: Mr. Goldberg on November 11, 2008, 12:28:19 PM
True - one of the first things I (seriously) read I think.


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Post by: Jay on January 29, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
Just the Russians.


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Post by: michaelaaron on February 09, 2009, 06:42:32 PM
instituitional wallet by suzi kaplan olmsted


mmmm


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Post by: nauseamfromrum on February 11, 2009, 12:16:06 AM
just finished heart of darkness and my soul feels like sludge


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Post by: Will on March 04, 2009, 09:13:49 PM
Pulp by Bukowski


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Post by: Ploe on March 18, 2009, 06:13:19 PM
Pulp by Bukowski

Best. Novel. Ever.


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Post by: nauseamfromrum on March 18, 2009, 09:46:29 PM
just finished watchmen, the whole movie ordeal sparked me interest.


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Post by: Will on March 23, 2009, 08:26:59 PM
Best. Novel. Ever.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. 


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Post by: nauseamfromrum on April 30, 2009, 12:47:39 AM
finnegans wake. page 56, considering calling it quits. anyone ever finished it?

btw i'd recommend anyone read it, even if you only get a couple of pages it;'s fuckin unbelievably masterpieceful. it's too brilliant for human cognition to take in.


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Post by: sockett94 on April 30, 2009, 09:14:20 AM
Q Music Magazine


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Post by: Will on April 30, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
finnegans wake. page 56, considering calling it quits. anyone ever finished it?

btw i'd recommend anyone read it, even if you only get a couple of pages it;'s fuckin unbelievably masterpieceful. it's too brilliant for human cognition to take in.

I found it online and am struggling with page 1.


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Post by: ~vxn~ on May 01, 2009, 01:31:04 AM
reading more of my own work.  the more books i write, the harder to come up with poem titles i haven't already used.  :(


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Post by: Ploe on May 01, 2009, 05:25:02 AM
Vxn I'm a huge fan of my work. I guess my stuff really strikes something within me...


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Post by: Will on May 01, 2009, 02:12:30 PM
I wet the bed when I read my shit. 


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Post by: nauseamfromrum on May 01, 2009, 09:13:18 PM
vxn, that;s why i don't use poem titles at all. i just either leave it untitled or use the first linel

as for the other discussion:  i don't find myself reading my own work as much as i find myself reciting it in my head.

and will, the way i read it is more payinmg attention to themusicality than the meaning. there's something so alluring about the book that im compelled to--maybe because i've always been really good at speaking gibberish  made up languages. (me and my friend try to comprehend each other's gibberish when we get really wasted...try it with someone, you'll realize that you can actually hint at what they are trying to say by their inflections and such)


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Post by: ~vxn~ on May 03, 2009, 11:42:25 PM
lmfao @ ploe and will. 



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Post by: nauseamfromrum on May 06, 2009, 03:04:00 AM
just finished "the grass is singing"


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Post by: Ploe on May 19, 2009, 08:56:32 PM
My copy of "Notes of a Dirty Old Man" arrived today. Pleased...


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Post by: SimoAlx on May 19, 2009, 09:58:51 PM
The Celestine Prophecy... anyone else read it?


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Post by: JJ on May 21, 2009, 08:11:56 PM
I'm reading 'The Wasp Factory' by Ian Banks for the second time. Incredibly strange book but a great read.  :)


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Post by: Jay on May 23, 2009, 03:21:44 PM
finnegans wake. page 56, considering calling it quits. anyone ever finished it?

btw i'd recommend anyone read it, even if you only get a couple of pages it;'s fuckin unbelievably masterpieceful. it's too brilliant for human cognition to take in.

The word masterpieceful is quite Joycean. It must have done something to you.   



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Post by: ~vxn~ on May 29, 2009, 12:58:48 AM
sadly, i'm still reading my own shite. 

re-read the first 6 books in hopes of finishing the 7th--not that anyone reads my work... other than me.  lol.  i really should find something better to do with my time.

up to 71 pages so far.  i'll publush when i get to 100.


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Post by: ~vxn~ on June 18, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
up to 90 pages now.  still reading my own shite.


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Post by: Will on July 09, 2009, 02:31:36 PM
I just finished Ubik by Phil Dick and am now slowly working my way through A Clockwork Orange


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Post by: WA2 on July 11, 2009, 05:11:50 PM
Damn I wanna read Clockwork orange...


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Post by: Will on July 12, 2009, 01:11:11 AM
Hope you like learning new terms.  It's kind of neat once you get your rookers around it. 


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Post by: The Bolshevik Dandy on December 13, 2009, 12:22:19 AM
Anybody ever read Humboldt's Gift by Saul Bellow?
Delmore Schwarz?FAMILIAR?


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Post by: ~vxn~ on December 31, 2009, 11:36:03 PM
70% of the way finished writing poetry collection 8. 
did a 6th childrens book. 

so, yes--that's right!, still reading my own shite.

oh, and "49" by Samuel H. Kelly. 


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Post by: Will on January 05, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch.  Kind of weird but interesting. 


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Post by: ~vxn~ on January 25, 2010, 05:42:18 PM
the birthing house - christopher ransom

interesting. 


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Post by: nauseamfromrum on March 24, 2010, 03:15:29 AM
to the lighthouse!


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Post by: ~vxn~ on April 01, 2010, 02:44:39 AM
i'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

wait for it.









wait for it.
























































wait for it.
































poetry collection #9 is underway--so, i am reading my own shite again.  you know, i just really get me.  lol.


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Post by: Ploe on August 23, 2010, 06:31:16 AM
Currently First Love and Other Short Stories by Sam Beckett at the suggestion of my boy Jay. Taken a shine to him too. Beckett - not my boy. There there is a pre-existing shine.


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Post by: nauseamfromrum on October 10, 2010, 02:06:13 AM

the last thing i read was hypnotism made easy by marie nimier.

 and ploe, i was once given the strip-club snub by two dirty whores because i referred to the friend i was with as "my boy"   hahaha...i guess that plus my tacky leather vest made them think i was altogether uninterested---i wasn't interested, but mainly because their offer to my friend was  " some pussy in his eye" --consider me snubbed  :)